Saturday 5 January 2013

Is Freelancer.com A Scam?

The more I read about Freelancer.com from various freelancers as well as project owners, greater the impression which I get with regard to the site being nothing but a sham and a scam.

Freelancer.com - Scam or Legit?

But is that really true? Have you ever worked on or worked through Freelancer.com, as a freelancer and project owner respectively?

If so, how has your experience been?

If I talk about myself, I have not worked on the site (as a freelancer or a contractor) for a very long time, in fact from the time it got rechristened as Freelancer.com, from its previous avatar of GetAFreelancer.com.

And if you ask me, the experience on GetAFreelancer.com, at least till the time I worked on it, was fairly good. Not once did I get a feeling that the whole site is nothing but a scam.

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Over time though, I drifted onto Elance which is where I do bulk of my content writing projects today, for clients from around the world.

Pay on Elance is definitely many notches above what it used to be on GetAFreelancer.com to the extent that I can easily state with confidence, one CAN actually make a decent living, working full time on Elance, even as an individual freelancer. I specifically say individual because there are MANY businesses or small companies which are working aggressively on Elance and actually making as much or more money than what many other comparable businesses in the "real world" make.

As an instance, take a look at the No. 1 Elance contractor, across all project categories - SynapseIndia, a New Delhi, India based offshore custom development solutions provider which in the last 12 months alone has earned in excess of 2 Million Dollars and over its lifetime presence on Elance, has made more than 10 Million Dollars.

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Clearly, these are very large sums of money in the context of a freelance platform and they clearly showcase the potential that a site like Elance holds for the entire freelance community.

Vis-a-vis that, I would very highly doubt if there is even a single freelance business on Freelancer.com that has earned a Million Dollars or above, forget about individual freelancers. On Elance I can assure you that there are many businesses which have, including some in the extremely competitive and not-so-well-paying 'Writing and Translation' category such as Words You Want.

It is against such a backdrop that the whole Freelancer.com saga comes across to me as such a BIG surprise.

These are thoughts which I had put together in a video on my freelancing specific YouTube channel, which can also be seen below:


After all, while on one hand, if you look up the Freelancer.com Wikipedia page, you will get an impression that all is hunky dory with this business and is clearly a frontrunner for being one of the biggest players in this space, especially after having acquired other businesses such as LimeExchange, Scriptlance, and vWorker, among others.

The Founder of Freelancer.com as it exists today, is an individual named Matt Barrie. Again, things seem more or alright with this person, at least as some really rudimentary Google searching reveals.

Matt Barrie, Freelancer.com Founder -
A Savvy Tech Entrepreneur  OR A Scam Artist?

But ironically, the same Wikipedia page which lists out numerous awards won by Freelancer.com also lists out plentiful scams originating from the company...scroll down the page and you will see those links for yourself.

I have myself provided you with some links here, here, here and here.

So my question is, have you worked, or are still working on or through Freelancer.com, in any capacity? If so, how is your experience going?

Like I mentioned, after having begun the entire saga of bidding on online freelance sites, on GetAFreelancer.com, I graduated to Elance.com and there has really been no looking back on my part.

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For me, the biggest impediment with regard to all other sites barring Elance.com is that they do not charge freelancers to place proposals (individually, for each proposal) unlike the way Elance does.

I feel that is a very good policy to follow since it restricts the sheer number of proposals which are placed on these job sites. Otherwise, on sites like oDesk and Freelancer.com in particular, I have noted jobs that pay really very poorly getting a phenomenal number of bids. As an instance, you might have a job on oDesk or Freelancer.com which seeks out 10, 500 word articles for $10 viz. a $ an article and yet there could well be as many as 50 freelancers bidding on that job!!

Really, all this seems just so crazy and funny to me!

I mean my raison d'etre of being on Elance or working freelance this way is ONLY & ONLY to make money, not to kill time!!

But the rates at which these jokers work, I really get a feeling that they have motives other than to make a living or even to make some decent money, up their sleeves!

So my assertion to freelancers as well as project owners working (or have worked) on Freelancer.com to please share your experiences.

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Let's hear some real stories so that we are reassured about the authenticity (or otherwise) of both Freelancer.com as well as the scam allegations which are made so often against the site.

In case these allegations are true, Freelancer.com should ideally be reported to the ACCC or Australian Competition & Consumer Commission (since Freelancer.com is Sydney, Australia based) which can take necessary action and ideally close the site and its entire business altogether.

But if these allegations are baseless, then action should contrarily be taken against all those parties who have made those allegations in the first place, which I wouldn't be surprised, if they turn out to be competitors of the site.

As far as my own assertions with regard to very poor pay on the site, accompanied by numerous charges and fees at practically every stage (even in those GetAFreelancer.com days, though clearly not as much as the ones that complainants have cited for Freelancer.com), I stand by them and they will remain sacrosanct.

But whether Freelancer.com is a scam outright or not...let's just have that very clearly established please.

17 comments:

  1. Will never forgive them:
    - abusing my privacy
    - slandering me in front of my (now former) customers and the general public
    - using my ideas as if those were theirs
    - blackmailing me for writing the truth about them
    - threatening me with lawsuits while pretending there was no wrongdoing from them
    - ...

    Thank you for the credit on your youtube video. As I see it is getting pretty popular! Feel free to share your thoughts and post links at my blog:
    http://getahindu.blogspot.com/

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  2. Hi everyone,
    We have created a community group on facebook to form a front against freelancer. One of the members is actually planning to start a class action (law) suit against them. Another person started a petition at change.org in the hope she can stop this fraud. Join our facebook page an get the latest news about the freelancer.com scams and what people are doing to stop it. But most important how you can help us to make an end of this amazingly sophisticated fraud company that seems to get away with all of these things they do to freelancer and employers.
    Join our community page on facebook: freelancer.com scam
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Freelancercom-Scam/559665087397688

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  3. Hi everyone,
    We have created a community group on facebook to form a front against freelancer. One of the members is actually planning to start a class action (law) suit against them. Another person started a petition at change.org in the hope she can stop this fraud. Join our facebook page an get the latest news about the freelancer.com scams and what people are doing to stop it. But most important how you can help us to make an end of this amazingly sophisticated fraud company that seems to get away with all of these things they do to freelancer and employers.
    Join our community page on facebook: freelancer.com scam
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Freelancercom-Scam/559665087397688

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  4. You simply avoided the burning issues. You could write on the issues that are raised. But the approach without getting into the issues you choose to be superficial. Pardon, if you get angry reading this comment. Why don't you open an account and experience the issues by yourself? You will find out that whether the reports are exaggerated or not. People are not happy to get their account limited when they are expecting to withdraw their own money. http://freelancingwatch.blogspot.com/2013/05/freelancercom-takes-money-from.html

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  5. Dear, friends. Be careful. They are scam. I was robbed some times in total about 2,5k $. They take money without any reasons after some period 2-3 monthes after payments. Support is the dumbest. Only simple answers as bot. Many fake projects where they ask for take exams for money. Many customers with 0 reviews which asked for your personal emails or skype. It is a hidden staff. They ask your personal info: passport, creadit card with all digits and even security 3 digit! They are thieves. After some time they will get money from your card! They take money after you accept project, but if customer ignored pay escrow they would ignore your asking for help.
    Never trust to them!
    Best regards, Denis.

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  6. Hi Denis/shashko72,

    My name is Lara and I’m from Freelancer.com.

    We appreciate your feedback and be assured that this will surely not go unrecognized, as part of our continuing goal for improving customer experience. Our verification process is designed as a security measure on the site in order to prevent fraud. I’m here to help you. I’d like to investigate further on what happened with your funds. You may send me an email at LaraO@freelancer.com and I will have this one checked for you.

    I hope to hear from you soon.

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  7. Freelancer.com - the biggest scam!

    Very serious and responsible I work 120%. On freelancer.com since 2008, but employers were allways happy and my ratings is still 5.0.

    Since the site passed into the Australian hands, the freelancer.com strongly degraded. A lot of things changed: the number of projects increased, new functions were added, greed of the freelancer.com grew many times, scam scale increased.

    The administration isn't capable to control monetary operations. They have no tools for this purpose. It is ok for the site, if after a good review and released payment, freelancer.com reversalt he transaction depriving you earned money. You do not even notified about it. They quietly remove the money from your account. I will say more. Freelancer.com can reversal the transaction after the money is withdrawed and keep your balance in a deep minus , and then they demand from you to put the money back on your frelancer account. As a result the freelancer.com will remove from you 110% (10% fees, which were removed at the beginning of a project + 100% of your earned money that were returned to the employer). Sounds absurd? Today it is quite so on the site. To all claims they answer in the manner „We can do nothing. A chargeback has been filed on the employer‘s payment provider. We only take fees. We would recommend that you contact the employer directly and ask to pay again.“

    All of these milestones - complete nonsense! An employer can post a project, create a milestone, get the project done, release the money and after get all money back. Freelancer.com promotes scam. What milestones for? To give the appearance of reliability? After a project is done, you won‘t see the money anyway. In addition, you pay 10% fees. Cool!

    Today the freelancer.com is not the guarantor of honest execution of deal. It is just a message board with the job offers, where you take all risks upon yourself. Freelancer.com only can guarantee that you will pay them all fees for the opportunity to be deceived!

    It is a pity to lose rating and reviews, but it is even more a pity for the nerves. There are alternatives and it is time to leave freelancer.com. You are sure it is no concern of you? Just type in google „freelancer.com scam reversal“.

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  8. Hi Alexander,

    Lara here from Freelancer.com.

    Allow us to address the issues that you have brought up. Kindly send an email to LaraO@freelancer.com so we can address them properly.

    We aim to give our users the best online experience, and we'll be more than happy to help.

    I look forward to your response.

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  9. Your post is quite insightful. If you want to have a look at the complaints from the Freelancer.com users, please go through the comments section of http://kkpradeeban.blogspot.com/2012/11/is-freelancercom-complete-scam-or.html

    Regards,
    Pradeeban Kathiravelu

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  10. As you recommended to join elance.com, although I had good experience with freelancer.com, I joined to elance.com but it was really frustrating; it was really ridiculous site with very limited jobs posted (off course comparing to freelancer.com).
    As you mentioned you have not worked in freelancer.com but I’m working now; it's not scam at all; please stop spreading such wrong info.
    I’m working in both freelancer.com and elance.com but according to my experience, I prefer freelancer.com.

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